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Post How do you test for coma state with a physically disabled client?
on: August 7, 2011, 22:57
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By eugenek on December 12, 2010, 08:25:06 PM
I was asked to work with disabled client. She shut down her body due to emotional state caused by family problems. After forgiveness therapy she started to regain her strength and start to move some muscles in her legs and abdominal area. Her breathing is stronger. Her spirit got lifted up. Her tongue start to function much better and her ability to speak returned even after doctors told her that she will never speak again. Now I want to do Ultra-Height session that I learned at 2010 convention from Gerald Kein class. I got triggered with the possibilities that Ultra Height state offers to the client. The question is : "How do I test her for coma state?
She is not capable of moving her arms or legs on her own yet.
I sent email to omni hypnosis but no answer yet for like 3 weeks. Is any one have any suggestion how should I aproach such client.
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Eugene

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By shamlyn on December 13, 2010, 10:30:38 AM
If you can't get hold of Jerry, then you may consider getting in touch with either someone from his approved schools
http://omnihypnosis.com/approved-schools.htm

Or else check out the omnigrads and see if any specialise in UltraHeight
http://omnihypnosis.com/omnigrads.htm

Here are my thoughts.

If you are really unsure on how to use UltraHeight with this client, then I would consider finding out more about UltraHeight through Jerry's materials which are virtually instantly available via download off his site. Hypnotists should only work within their own training, and if you are unsure what you should be doing with the client, then maybe you should think about referring them on until such time as you seek further training or have greater experience in this area. I do not know the details of this case, but from what you have described, I think that I personally would want to refer the client on to someone who already has the necessary training and experience. Please bear in mind here, I am not having a go, just seeding the thought that sometimes we need to refer problems out to others who are trained specialists.

While Jerry does indeed suggest that a client be taken into the Esdaile state when using UltraHeight, this is not absolutely necessary. You can use UltraHeight with other lighter (whatever that means) hypnotic states. You may need to work a bit harder, and make sure that you compound. Remembering that the Esdail state can come with a number of phenomena (e.g. analgesia / anesthesia without suggestion etc.). however, if the client is in a lighter state, then you can still use direct suggestion to obtain these phenomena. Don't forget that not all clients exhibit all the text-book physical signs and phenomena for a given hypnotic state. With the Esdaile state, a good, though not definitive, indicator is the way they respond with the basement deepener. Here you may want to emphasis more on the mental deepening rather than the physical relaxation deepening (if there is any possibility of affecting their breathing).

Instead of the natural 'parking' of the body (and other phenomena) in the Esdaile state, directly suggest what you want to achieve for the client and compound it.

In fact, I personally think that if the client has shown signs of breathing difficulty, I would not take them into the coma state. Instead I would only deepen them to the point where they feel and are "comfortable" (breathing etc) and work from there. Remember, you don't need relaxation for hypnosis.

Don't get stuck with technique by following it word for word. Instead be a bit more flexible and work with what you have and what the client is capable of.

I would also make sure that you are working with a medical referral.

Finally, if I did go ahead and use UltraHeight, I would make sure that the client is conditioned for comfort (DS and compounding) then move onto the UltraHeight technique itself. It should become clear whether or not the client is achieving UltraHeight and / or is experiencing hyperempiria. At least, you can get a starting-place to work from and build up from there.

As far as UltraHeight is concerned, you can allow the client to free-run the journey, or else set up certain expectations (maybe through covert language) and have each UltraHeight session have a distinct experience, e.g. sessions for releasing emotional baggage, for finding the healer within, etc., all the time working with what the client needs are.

Hope this helps.
Steve.

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